That really is very stable. And clearly higher than the ex115 amount. 35g of beef making 5lbs of difference. I'm wondering if protein disposal is shutting PUFAs out of the peroxisomes so that the blood levels stay slightly higher.
What was your stable weight last time you did ex150? I would think if this is lower then that's a sign that something is getting very slowly fixed. Certainly sounds like it from your satiety reports.
I have no prediction for what happens when you try high-carb. Expect weirdness of some sort though, and watch out for funny mental effects and fatigue. Small amounts of melatonin at around 1800 might keep your sleep cycle where it should be. Good luck.
Michael Eades:” If you put people on a low-carb diet for two weeks, then switch them abruptly to a low-fat diet without a few weeks in between to get rid of all the metabolic hormonal changes created by the two weeks of carb restriction, you aren’t going to get a valid reading on what happens with the low-fat diet. The same would be the case if the low-fat diet were first. This is why all serious studies of this kind have at least a several-week washout period between the two diets.“
Well, that's why I do 30 days, not 14. Could still be too little, of course. But what would I use as a washout diet? It's going to be in between the 90% fat and 90% carb diet, presumably. All I'm doing is messing with how much I have to disregard in terms of weight gain/loss in one direction, based on my expectations.
I'd think that "under the curve" a gradual transition wouldn't wash out any faster. I do think you have to be aware of plateau effects/differences between these diets, which is why I try to discard water weight changes and look for a trend AFTER the new plateau is reached.
Optimally I suppose I should try doing a diet this different for longer than 30 days, but it's not always feasible. Some diets are also much more unpleasant than others.
I might do the rice diet again, or a slightly modified version, if the OmegaQuant reveals my LA went down significantly. As I did it, it definitely wasn't a sustainable forever diet, just an intervention/experiment.
Although the rice diet—consisting of rice, fruit/juices, and sugar—doesn't seem all that bad.
I will likely start it on my own. However, my motivation is not weight loss, as that is not an issue for me, but rather to reduce omega-6 intake. It seems like a very effective approach. 2025 just started, so we'll see.
Looking forward to seeing what happens on HCLFLP. BTW, are you comfortable and feeling well at your current weight? Is weight loss still a goal for you and why? Would you ever try GPL-1 class of drugs to reach goals, why or why not? Lots of questions, I hope its Ok to ask you all this.
Yea I'm very comfortable around 220lbs. Obviously I wouldn't say no to losing a bit more if it happens "organically" i.e. without starving myself and it'll all come back if I eat ad-lib again, or something like that.
So no, I don't consider GPL-1 drugs worthwhile. For one, their results are not very impressive - I had much better results than anyone in the Ozempic studies, and better or on par than even the best group in the newer one (Tirzepatide?) Also, I'm already past the easy part of the fat loss - how much would these drugs do now? I know enough people for whom they did nothing even when still very obese.
Good luck bro!! Also rice is goated so it'll definitely be easier with rice than with other things to do HCLFLP!!! I've kinda been doing that myself more recently as my (something) has been whack and traditional keto has been seemingly impossible for me as keto foods literally repulsed me, lol. But rice.. Rice kept me going. xD
So far the rice is ok :) Day 6, will see if I make it but after a rocky first 2 days, it's been pretty smooth ever since. It's just a lot of work, making rice in the rice cooker and eating giant bowls of mostly water all day, lol.
Can't wait to see what HCLFLP does for you! Your willingness to experiment—even when the downside risks appear to be formidable—is inspiring!
Thanks! So far so good haha.
That really is very stable. And clearly higher than the ex115 amount. 35g of beef making 5lbs of difference. I'm wondering if protein disposal is shutting PUFAs out of the peroxisomes so that the blood levels stay slightly higher.
What was your stable weight last time you did ex150? I would think if this is lower then that's a sign that something is getting very slowly fixed. Certainly sounds like it from your satiety reports.
I have no prediction for what happens when you try high-carb. Expect weirdness of some sort though, and watch out for funny mental effects and fatigue. Small amounts of melatonin at around 1800 might keep your sleep cycle where it should be. Good luck.
ex150-10 (which came directly after ex115salmon) was also pretty stable between 221-222lbs. So very similar, if a tiny bit lower.
Michael Eades:” If you put people on a low-carb diet for two weeks, then switch them abruptly to a low-fat diet without a few weeks in between to get rid of all the metabolic hormonal changes created by the two weeks of carb restriction, you aren’t going to get a valid reading on what happens with the low-fat diet. The same would be the case if the low-fat diet were first. This is why all serious studies of this kind have at least a several-week washout period between the two diets.“
Well, that's why I do 30 days, not 14. Could still be too little, of course. But what would I use as a washout diet? It's going to be in between the 90% fat and 90% carb diet, presumably. All I'm doing is messing with how much I have to disregard in terms of weight gain/loss in one direction, based on my expectations.
There is unfortunately no "neutral" washout diet.
Perhaps what was ment was a more gradual transit? Dunno. Best of luck.
I'd think that "under the curve" a gradual transition wouldn't wash out any faster. I do think you have to be aware of plateau effects/differences between these diets, which is why I try to discard water weight changes and look for a trend AFTER the new plateau is reached.
Optimally I suppose I should try doing a diet this different for longer than 30 days, but it's not always feasible. Some diets are also much more unpleasant than others.
I might do the rice diet again, or a slightly modified version, if the OmegaQuant reveals my LA went down significantly. As I did it, it definitely wasn't a sustainable forever diet, just an intervention/experiment.
Although the rice diet—consisting of rice, fruit/juices, and sugar—doesn't seem all that bad.
I will likely start it on my own. However, my motivation is not weight loss, as that is not an issue for me, but rather to reduce omega-6 intake. It seems like a very effective approach. 2025 just started, so we'll see.
Do you have an OmegaQuant for baseline omega-6?
Looking forward to seeing what happens on HCLFLP. BTW, are you comfortable and feeling well at your current weight? Is weight loss still a goal for you and why? Would you ever try GPL-1 class of drugs to reach goals, why or why not? Lots of questions, I hope its Ok to ask you all this.
Yea I'm very comfortable around 220lbs. Obviously I wouldn't say no to losing a bit more if it happens "organically" i.e. without starving myself and it'll all come back if I eat ad-lib again, or something like that.
So no, I don't consider GPL-1 drugs worthwhile. For one, their results are not very impressive - I had much better results than anyone in the Ozempic studies, and better or on par than even the best group in the newer one (Tirzepatide?) Also, I'm already past the easy part of the fat loss - how much would these drugs do now? I know enough people for whom they did nothing even when still very obese.
Also all the side effects lol, that's just crazy.
Good luck bro!! Also rice is goated so it'll definitely be easier with rice than with other things to do HCLFLP!!! I've kinda been doing that myself more recently as my (something) has been whack and traditional keto has been seemingly impossible for me as keto foods literally repulsed me, lol. But rice.. Rice kept me going. xD
So far the rice is ok :) Day 6, will see if I make it but after a rocky first 2 days, it's been pretty smooth ever since. It's just a lot of work, making rice in the rice cooker and eating giant bowls of mostly water all day, lol.
Haha,understandable if you're not used to it! :P
Having the right amount of salt to the salt helps a lot, and if allowed some seaweed can do wonders as well to make it more fun and varied to eat. ^^
I put fat free marinara on it (from Whole Foods), and sometimes put some microwaved frozen vegetables into it or hot sauce for flavor/variety.
Waiting for your next write up with anticipation!
Interesting