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Audrea's avatar

I wonder if the body would use protein as energy if one meal's p:e ratio were >1 but the overall daily p:e ratio were <0.5 (e.g. only a lean steak for lunch but pure fat for breakfast and dinner)? Also is how much exogenous protein can be absorbed for structural purposes in a single meal relevant, here?

Regarding PUFA, is there a difference between seed oil which is likely over-oxidized and rancid and meat-bound PUFA which is not rancid or oxidized? Are all PUFAs a potential culprit or just the oxidized ones? By your hypothesis, when they are released into the bloodstream from body fat, in what state are they?

Could you also elaborate on how they are eliminated from the body? If they are released from body fat, what determines whether they are expelled from the body or returned back to body fat?

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Why do you say the monk fruit extract is raising your insulin massively? This paper looked at the insulin response to a drink sweetened with monk fruit and none was detected. https://www.nature.com/articles/ijo2016225

You are eating it rather than drinking it as was done in that paper, so that might make a small difference due to the cephalic insulin response (part of what that Lustig guy claims is a big problem with artificial sweeteners), but it would be strange, I think, if it were much of a difference. And it would be strange if it were raising insulin that much more than the carbs and protein in the cream already are.

Also, on Lustig's fear of insulin, why would it be bad to have an insulin spike after eating an artificial sweetener? He says chronic inflammation and cell proliferation. He's clearly oversimplifying things in that talk you linked. Is there actual evidence to say insulin spikes in situations like this are bad? I wouldn't be surprised if they were good!

He also fails to mention that the literature on glucose intolerance from "diet sweeteners" is not clear cut. I haven't seen anything on monk fruit in particular either.

I definitely understand quitting the monk fruit because it tastes bad, though.

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