> Let’s not forget the poor people from The Biggest Loser, one of whom has to keep starving himself at 800kcal/day to prevent weight gain now.
Small correction: he consumes 800kcal/day _less than would be expected for a man of his weight_, not 800kcal/day _total_. Interesting analogy nevertheless!
It occurs to me that if the biggest losers tank their metabolic rate by under eating, perhaps eating to satiety isn’t just a good tip. Maybe it’s essential?
I think that there's kind of a spectrum of satiety.
E.g. when I first started ex150, I was eating around 2,300kcal/day when eating to satiety.
Later, with the heavy cream lattes, it was almost 4,000kcal, some days over. It felt exactly the same satiety wise.
So I agree that you probably need to reach the lower bound of "satiety" in order not to depress your metabolism. And then there's an upper bound you can go to before it becomes painful/obvious overfeeding?
I really have to try the whipped cream, diet so I can see if satiety is possible for me. The heavy cream latte example resonates with me as I'm sure I could polish off a quart of heavy cream every day on top of my regular food if it were in coffee.
The closest thing to satiety that I experience is where after eating a certain amount it becomes possible to force myself to leave the kitchen even though I would rather continue eating. Sometimes the certain amount is large enough that I feel physically uncomfortable.
There seem to be various satiety mechanisms in the human body, and in some people, sometimes, some are broken.
E.g. I get practically zero satiety from carbs, fullness, or protein. Whipped cream hits me like a truck. Others have tried the whipped cream and it didn't work for them, and some claim they get "satiated" from physical fullness...
> Let’s not forget the poor people from The Biggest Loser, one of whom has to keep starving himself at 800kcal/day to prevent weight gain now.
Small correction: he consumes 800kcal/day _less than would be expected for a man of his weight_, not 800kcal/day _total_. Interesting analogy nevertheless!
That would make more sense, but the article I found says 800kcal _total_.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/exercise-metabolism-and-weight-new-research-from-the-biggest-loser-202201272676
> yet six years later, after regaining 100 pounds of that lost weight, had to consume an 800-calorie-per-day diet to maintain his weight
It occurs to me that if the biggest losers tank their metabolic rate by under eating, perhaps eating to satiety isn’t just a good tip. Maybe it’s essential?
I think that there's kind of a spectrum of satiety.
E.g. when I first started ex150, I was eating around 2,300kcal/day when eating to satiety.
Later, with the heavy cream lattes, it was almost 4,000kcal, some days over. It felt exactly the same satiety wise.
So I agree that you probably need to reach the lower bound of "satiety" in order not to depress your metabolism. And then there's an upper bound you can go to before it becomes painful/obvious overfeeding?
* laughs insatiably *
I really have to try the whipped cream, diet so I can see if satiety is possible for me. The heavy cream latte example resonates with me as I'm sure I could polish off a quart of heavy cream every day on top of my regular food if it were in coffee.
The closest thing to satiety that I experience is where after eating a certain amount it becomes possible to force myself to leave the kitchen even though I would rather continue eating. Sometimes the certain amount is large enough that I feel physically uncomfortable.
There seem to be various satiety mechanisms in the human body, and in some people, sometimes, some are broken.
E.g. I get practically zero satiety from carbs, fullness, or protein. Whipped cream hits me like a truck. Others have tried the whipped cream and it didn't work for them, and some claim they get "satiated" from physical fullness...
Good choice of car to use in your metaphor. The Camry is one of the cars used in NASCAR, unless it's changed in the past few years.
I don't think the NASCAR race cars have much to do with the consumer Camry under the hood ;) But yea I do believe so.