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Julian's avatar

This is wonderful news! I'm curious what your weight progression was like each day of the refeed.

But mainly I'm commenting to wonder out loud what might have happened if you'd chosen to trust your body's satiety signals rather than forcing yourself to eat more. Maybe you wouldn't have gained any fat and could have kept the refeed going indefinitely? Did you fix your merabolism for good?

Either way, super curious where this goes from here.

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Here’s my weigh ins from the refeed. That one day I forgot to weigh myself.

2026-05-12 | 206.7

2026-05-13 | 206.3

2026-05-14 | 206.9

2026-05-15 | 213.9

2026-05-16 | 218.9

2026-05-17 |

2026-05-18 | 223.9

2026-05-19 | 227.6

2026-05-20 | 224.5

That’s a great question! The satiety signal being accurate is the dream :) If I’m more confident in that signal while swamping in the future, I might end up doing that and see what happens. This time I was just too surprised lol, I was expecting it to disappear, like it had previously, any second the entire time.

Tyler Ransom's avatar

> that’s 0.013 fathoms for my European readers

Or 0.000126 furlongs for your horse-racing-enthusiast readers

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Is that Terminator 2 furlongs or more recent?

John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

As a European, I was initially confused, because we'd traditionally say '14 millifathoms' instead of 'one inch', that being a slightly better approximation to the true value of 1/72, but perhaps you are talking about the pre-1959 United States customary foot, or the US Survey foot? Or perhaps the US fathom is more of a customary unit in its own right? Sailors are a strange folk with their own traditions after all. And perhaps the lack of limes has had its own effects?

I was bewildered and gratified when my sources informed me that y'all'd finally come round to the Imperial foot after a short delay for ratification. It's rather touching. Is it perhaps part of the famous movement to Make America Great Again? A project in which you have our full support!

Rodion Slabinskyi's avatar

i see a lot of claims about high pufa and omega 6 during observation of your blog.

i do not think pufa and omega 6 really affects weight loss, i did the same experiment as u with raw pork fat, olive oil and had similar effect to yours

(mostly beef/liver/egg yolks for protein up to 25-30gr) and sometimes avocado carbs.

i believe it’s mainly protein restriction. and i do not digest much protein as people tbh. like 65gr it’s already so much.

PS. found out this weight loss hack through ketosis as had mental problems (like u too? lol)

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Are you in Europe? Your pork likely has way less linoleic acid than our American pork, and olive oil doesn’t have THAT much either compared to soybean/corn oil, which are common here.

In any case, congrats!

Rodion Slabinskyi's avatar

i did 4 cans cod liver per week , to make better ratio. could huge role too. i calculated ratio to omega 6 was 1.4:1 , that seems not bad

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

o6:o3, or which ratio?

Rodion Slabinskyi's avatar

thx for all the materials btw!

Rodion Slabinskyi's avatar

yeah o6 to o3

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Yea 1.4:1 is a really good ratio for sure, better than almost everyone's diet/fatty acid composition.

That said I don't think the ratio is the only or most important variable, I suspect that high o6 and high o3, even in a decent ratio, is not as good as low o6 in a good ratio. I.e. I don't think you can o3 supplement your way out of high o6, even if it helps on the margin.

Rodion Slabinskyi's avatar

yes, that's bulgarian pork. should be better than in US. i did some bacon in AZ, but idk why needed if there's beef fat.there lol

anyway that's high on toxins and omega 6 i believe.

Europe isn't much better quality of meat as common believe tbf

KZ's avatar

On the salmon/n3, the body doesn't release all of that fat cell pufa at once, but over the course of 24h. While the salmon IS eaten at once. So, we're only looking at how much linoleic acid is released during the several hours it takes you to digest and assimilate the salmon. Making the battle much easier for the omega-3s. And as another nod towards you reaching some milestone in the grey area between max ancestral and pathological %.

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Fair point, although then you'd also have to account for the fact that my adipose LA is dominating the remaining 18-21h a day when I haven't just eaten salmon.. so eating it only helps a small fraction of each day?

KZ's avatar

Only a small fraction of the n6 is being used functionally for the body's needs. The rest is burned for energy(FADS1/2 also). Not so with n3, which the body has been craving. The n3 will likely be used for the physiological needs to the highest degree possible. So, I'm guessing for one to a few days.

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

That's a good point

☔Jason Murphy's avatar

This is the good stuff. Scientist muttering *huh, that's weird* is the one who is about to make the discovery.

So what's the plan? replication? or variation?

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

ex150salmon rn, then will refeed the same way and just see what happens haha.

Gian's avatar

Isn't Linoleic acid essential component of cell membranes and in particular of cardiolipin in mitochondria? It provides modicum of fluidity to cell membranes. Of course, being liable to peroxidation, this ultimately ages and kills us but that's the trade-off life makes.

So, when you talk about depleting your body of LA, what precisely do you mean and how do you measure it?

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Yes, but only in teeny tiny amounts. Historically, people ate around 2% or less of their TEE in linoleic acid.

Today, it’s 15-20% of the SAD. That’s way too much.

So when I say depleting, I mean going back down to the historic/healthy amount of ~2%.

You couldn’t really deplete to 0% with real foods because all foods contain a tiny bit of it, even rice and other “zero fat” foods.

There’s a study of a guy (Brown) who tried inducing fatty acid deficiency in himself by eating a lab-created zero fat diet, and he couldn’t do it in 6 months of the strict diet. So it seems to take at least 6 months, even on a lab created zero fat diet. With real foods, even rice, probably not even possible.

ReadingRainbow's avatar

Do you have a post that provides an overview of what you’re doing thats accessible to normies who aren’t PUFA aware?

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Ugh I can’t post links to my own blog in here lol. Try searching for “seed oils explain the mysteries of obesity”

Tyler Ransom's avatar

> I use organic flour like King Arthur brand to avoid “fortification.”

Definitely recommend KA. I use it to make biscuits and they are absolutely delicious. All it is is flour, butter, milk, a pinch of sugar, a pinch of salt, and some baking powder

Tyler Ransom's avatar

> Pretty much the only variant I consistently buy are sour gummies of various kinds, and I suspect it’s more the sourness lol.

This is exactly the same for me! I really enjoy a brand called Yum Earth Sour Littles that seems to be a cleaner version of Sour Patch Kids

Brian Moore's avatar

hey I get this title + image reference

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

I got 17 problems but seed oils ain’t one!

Brian Moore's avatar

There’s a rocket jump joke here but it is beyond my talents to make it