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Shasha's avatar

which DPC provider/practice did you go with? (you can email me if you want) I am looking for one which would facilitate getting a CAC and stuff like that

SurgeStick's avatar

There's a blood test that measures oxidized LDL (oxLDL, Quest test code 92769). Apparently oxidized LDL is much worse than unoxidized LDL, so having high LDL might be fine as long as relatively little of it is oxidized.

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

That's what I've heard as well. I actually tested oxLDL once and it was high as well, IIRC.

fred's avatar

Vitamins B6 and B12, particularly at such high doses, should lower homocysteine. (B12 is used to convert homocysteine to methionine and B6 is used to convert it to cystathionine.) Eating low protein, particularly low methionine, also should lower homocysteine. Low protein diets with supplemented B6 and B12 are actually what they prescribe to people with homocystinuria (depending on the type or genetic causes).

Could you actually be giving yourself a folate deficiency with your diet? But supposedly folate deficiency leads to anemia, which you don't appear to have.

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

I am actually borderline low in folate, so probably yes. Just got an extensive micronutrient panel I'll write about soon. Basically, eating this little meat for a long time (over 6 months now) will likely deplete you slowly. So it's more of an intervention style diet, at goal weight I'll definitely have to up my meat and vegetable intake.

fred's avatar

Good you're taking your B vitamins then! Hopefully that is fixing the high homocysteine.

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Yup started taking B vitamin complex a while ago due to this.

Eliezer Yudkowsky's avatar

I'd guess your testesterone is fine. "Normal" reference ranges have been dropping over the decades.

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

I know that average T levels have been dropping for decades (at this point, generations?). Didn't know about the reference ranges, although I suppose those are just set by the averages. Do you have a list of historical reference ranges for this?

It would make sense because I'm not doing anything new or special. I'm basically just eating similar to what I probably would've 100 years ago. Probably would've had 30% starch in there, but in terms of saturated fat levels I mean.

Brian Moore's avatar

I too use a DPC, would recommend.

Kim Nari's avatar

AST, ALT er liver enzymes can can indicate a fatty liver other problems with the liver.

Mine have always been extremely low (below ref ranges here) on a ketogenic-style diet.

Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Good to know. That's probably why people look for issues w/ keto diets here.