Fuck me, 10lbs in two weeks! I like that there is a person in the world who makes me look sane and careful. But I really think that we are starting to get the hang of this......
Do you have any idea what other foods could (partly) substitute for heavy cream? I'm specifically wondering about macadamia nuts and avocados.
Per kCal, macadamia nuts have nearly the same amount of fat; avocados about 85%. Macadamia nuts have about twice the carbs (but no sugar), avocados about 6x (about half the sugar of heavy cream). Both have about 50% more protein.
Both have way more potassium (about 25x, 10x, respectively); a lot less sodium (1%, 55%, respectively); salted macadamia nuts of course have a lot more sodium, but the K/Na ratio is still much higher than heavy cream (14 vs 3.5).
Not necessarily looking for a complete swap, but wondering about partial substitutions. I'm starting on cream + cocoa butter + cocoa powder and will see how it goes!
I tried adding cocoa butter to my cream, but it wouldn't whip any more and just became this disgusting fat slop lol. My friend loved it, but he can also just eat cocoa butter like it's chocolate. I gag immediately.
I hope you have more success; if so, please let me know because that sounds like a great mix :)
With regards to the Chocolate - have you considered it is high in copper and copper is potentially correlated with weightloss.
"Your body has natural pathways to either turn on or turn off fat burning depending on your need for energy, like when you exercise,” says Chang. “Copper promotes fat burning by blocking the cycle that normally turns it off.” Aim to consume 700 micrograms of copper each day from food by loading up your plate with copper-rich eats such as leafy greens, mushrooms, nuts, oysters and shellfish."
Nov 12, 2023·edited Nov 12, 2023Liked by Experimental Fat Loss
I've been PUFA-free for a decade, and have only noticed increased sun tolerance. Your hypothesis is that, in some subset of overweight folks, PUFA is the only necessary change?
It seems that some people "just cut out PUFAs" and lose weight. But I don't know if that's some genetic or environmental thing, or if these people just happen to already eat a low-BCAA diet and then cutting out PUFA was the last thing missing or what.
I mean, for example if you had severe diarrhea due to your diet being too rich in fat (which is a risk for someone who suffers from BAM), your body would not have time to digest much/any of the calories before they left your body. I think about this a lot because I have some chronic gastrointestinal problems (BAM, various food intolerances, and probably also SIBO).
I see, yea that makes sense. I've had pretty great digestion with cream. I think it's easier for me because the fat is already emulsified. I cannot eat very much beef fat without negative digestion occurring if you catch my drift.
As a tangent, how do you like the X3 system? Do you feel like it is a more time-efficient way than other methods or not? I'm somewhat interested in it.
It's certainly very time efficient. I scaled back to 2x/wk because I wasn't recovering properly from the 4x. Maybe because of the low protein I was/am eating. 2x seems fine for now.
I love that I can just do it in my bedroom, takes almost zero setup time, no commute to a gym or even changing clothes.
The workouts are sometimes literally 7 minutes, although I'm trying to rest more so I'll actually do better in the later exercises, hah.
I do get super fatigued, since you do every exercise to failure every time.
Can't tell you if you'll get super shredded/jacked long term, but so far I really like it.
Oh one great thing, you can squat/chest (=bench) to failure without any fear of wrecking your knees or getting killed by the bar. Never had that with barbells.
Godspeed, you magnificent bastard.
Mostly bastard :D
Thanks
The amateur nutrition enthusiast/bioenergetic twitter crowd just can't stop winning. Congrats and godspeed to you!
Fuck me, 10lbs in two weeks! I like that there is a person in the world who makes me look sane and careful. But I really think that we are starting to get the hang of this......
Godspeed! And *do* look after yourself.
Do you have any idea what other foods could (partly) substitute for heavy cream? I'm specifically wondering about macadamia nuts and avocados.
Per kCal, macadamia nuts have nearly the same amount of fat; avocados about 85%. Macadamia nuts have about twice the carbs (but no sugar), avocados about 6x (about half the sugar of heavy cream). Both have about 50% more protein.
Both have way more potassium (about 25x, 10x, respectively); a lot less sodium (1%, 55%, respectively); salted macadamia nuts of course have a lot more sodium, but the K/Na ratio is still much higher than heavy cream (14 vs 3.5).
Both macadamia and avocado are mostly MUFA, and avocados still include over 10% of linoleic acid.
https://foods.exfatloss.com/food/171705?grams=100
https://foods.exfatloss.com/food/170178
So I'm not sure these would work as well as cream, which is much higher in saturated fat.
If you're wanting to stay very saturated and low-LA, you could look into coconut oil, cocoa butter, or beef suet/maybe tallow.
What's the reason you want to change out the cream?
Not necessarily looking for a complete swap, but wondering about partial substitutions. I'm starting on cream + cocoa butter + cocoa powder and will see how it goes!
I tried adding cocoa butter to my cream, but it wouldn't whip any more and just became this disgusting fat slop lol. My friend loved it, but he can also just eat cocoa butter like it's chocolate. I gag immediately.
I hope you have more success; if so, please let me know because that sounds like a great mix :)
I'm just making my own unsweetened dark chocolate with the cocoa butter & powder.
With regards to the Chocolate - have you considered it is high in copper and copper is potentially correlated with weightloss.
"Your body has natural pathways to either turn on or turn off fat burning depending on your need for energy, like when you exercise,” says Chang. “Copper promotes fat burning by blocking the cycle that normally turns it off.” Aim to consume 700 micrograms of copper each day from food by loading up your plate with copper-rich eats such as leafy greens, mushrooms, nuts, oysters and shellfish."
Interesting! I've heard a bunch of people talk about copper, but not in the weight loss context. That could definitely be.
Ray Peat carrot salad is simply carrot grated long ways vinegar salt and possibly coconut oil.
Yea I think I just wanted to add more crunchiness after 14 days of pudding diet.
I've been PUFA-free for a decade, and have only noticed increased sun tolerance. Your hypothesis is that, in some subset of overweight folks, PUFA is the only necessary change?
(Also, thanks for your experiments.)
It seems that some people "just cut out PUFAs" and lose weight. But I don't know if that's some genetic or environmental thing, or if these people just happen to already eat a low-BCAA diet and then cutting out PUFA was the last thing missing or what.
If you are losing weight so rapidly, can I ask, what are your bowel movements like? Frequency? Softness? Could this explain the rapid weight loss?
Totally normal, like on ex150. I go daily, sometimes twice. Never much, no straining, just immediately comes out and done. Best digestion I ever had.
Not sure how bowel movements would explain weight loss?
Well, I mean, if it wasn't digested properly it would be calories-in-and-straight-out-again, but that doesn't sound like it's the case for you.
> it would be calories-in-and-straight-out-again
What do you mean by that?
I mean, for example if you had severe diarrhea due to your diet being too rich in fat (which is a risk for someone who suffers from BAM), your body would not have time to digest much/any of the calories before they left your body. I think about this a lot because I have some chronic gastrointestinal problems (BAM, various food intolerances, and probably also SIBO).
I see, yea that makes sense. I've had pretty great digestion with cream. I think it's easier for me because the fat is already emulsified. I cannot eat very much beef fat without negative digestion occurring if you catch my drift.
As a tangent, how do you like the X3 system? Do you feel like it is a more time-efficient way than other methods or not? I'm somewhat interested in it.
It's certainly very time efficient. I scaled back to 2x/wk because I wasn't recovering properly from the 4x. Maybe because of the low protein I was/am eating. 2x seems fine for now.
I love that I can just do it in my bedroom, takes almost zero setup time, no commute to a gym or even changing clothes.
The workouts are sometimes literally 7 minutes, although I'm trying to rest more so I'll actually do better in the later exercises, hah.
I do get super fatigued, since you do every exercise to failure every time.
Can't tell you if you'll get super shredded/jacked long term, but so far I really like it.
Oh one great thing, you can squat/chest (=bench) to failure without any fear of wrecking your knees or getting killed by the bar. Never had that with barbells.
It seems easier to overtrain with bands, even on absurdly high protein.
The X3 system is nicely self-contained and takes the thinking out of it, but it is possible to get way more out of the bands with some creativity.
Yea, in a weird way: you can overtrain without your joints hurting :) Which is good, but also bad.