Fred Provenza is one of my mentors and has helped me a lot in my cattle nutrition concerns. Wilted Cherry is supposed to be highly poisonous to livestock and I was a nut about making sure they had no access to the cherry trees on the farm (of which there are a lot from the 1800s throughout the farm so tough to do) BUT the cattle still munched when they can and broke into one section and mowed down everything they could. NO SEQUELAE! Talked to Fred and he said my cows are obviously used to the wilted cherry - at least the ones on the farm - so what might bother others wouldn't bother them. I took down all cherry barriers and have never had a problem - and that was years ago. SO do problems with foods / nutrients have something to do with what you are used to - or your heritage is used to? I can eat dairy - and especially HWC ad lib - NO amount of "calories" of HWC will make me gain weight and I have to problem digesting any dairy. But I am of Dutch heritage and was raised on it. one of the best things I ever did for myself was go on a 7 day organic, raw goat milk fast that my old aunt told me to do to help with my sinuses. Since that was all I was consuming I took in 2-4 times as much "calories" as is estimated for me to not gain weight - and I LOST weight. I also got rid of my sinusitis. I tried it again with regular goats milk and gained weight, even though I didn't consume as much as the first time (maybe Westin A Price was actually right on raw milk like my grandfather said [who knew him]). anyway, I think ALL NUTRITION is an n=1 for the person - so many factors are involved (I did a fast as I had a tummy thing for a week. pooped my brains out, drank only water. lost almost nothing). I lost almost 100lb pre covid era - and gained some back with changed eating patterns - now, even doing what I did before, I am on the stuggle bus to lose every lb......... so something in ME changed and now I have to find my best n=1 again. I not only don't believe there is any ONE answer, I don't believe if a person finds an answer that the question won't change as life goes on. ....... But in being n=1s, we need to pay attention to what works and what doesn't FOR US at THE TIME. muscles change, hormones change, digestion & biome change - why shouldn't what it takes to run those efficiently change? my 22cents...... sorry, started out commenting on Fred......
Have you ever read any work from Fred Provenza?
No, who is he?
Fred Provenza is one of my mentors and has helped me a lot in my cattle nutrition concerns. Wilted Cherry is supposed to be highly poisonous to livestock and I was a nut about making sure they had no access to the cherry trees on the farm (of which there are a lot from the 1800s throughout the farm so tough to do) BUT the cattle still munched when they can and broke into one section and mowed down everything they could. NO SEQUELAE! Talked to Fred and he said my cows are obviously used to the wilted cherry - at least the ones on the farm - so what might bother others wouldn't bother them. I took down all cherry barriers and have never had a problem - and that was years ago. SO do problems with foods / nutrients have something to do with what you are used to - or your heritage is used to? I can eat dairy - and especially HWC ad lib - NO amount of "calories" of HWC will make me gain weight and I have to problem digesting any dairy. But I am of Dutch heritage and was raised on it. one of the best things I ever did for myself was go on a 7 day organic, raw goat milk fast that my old aunt told me to do to help with my sinuses. Since that was all I was consuming I took in 2-4 times as much "calories" as is estimated for me to not gain weight - and I LOST weight. I also got rid of my sinusitis. I tried it again with regular goats milk and gained weight, even though I didn't consume as much as the first time (maybe Westin A Price was actually right on raw milk like my grandfather said [who knew him]). anyway, I think ALL NUTRITION is an n=1 for the person - so many factors are involved (I did a fast as I had a tummy thing for a week. pooped my brains out, drank only water. lost almost nothing). I lost almost 100lb pre covid era - and gained some back with changed eating patterns - now, even doing what I did before, I am on the stuggle bus to lose every lb......... so something in ME changed and now I have to find my best n=1 again. I not only don't believe there is any ONE answer, I don't believe if a person finds an answer that the question won't change as life goes on. ....... But in being n=1s, we need to pay attention to what works and what doesn't FOR US at THE TIME. muscles change, hormones change, digestion & biome change - why shouldn't what it takes to run those efficiently change? my 22cents...... sorry, started out commenting on Fred......
You are very lucky. Loved his book. He is definitely not getting the credit he desrves. Smart person.