I wish the 2 of them would just sit down in a room for 3h Joe Rogan/Lex Fridman style and hash this out. I do wonder if it's "just" LA% or if there are other factors. Everything is marginal, so maybe it IS way worse if you get 20% preoxidized vs. 30% less oxidized LA, or maybe ALA is also bad, or maybe the antioxidants to reduce the damage to a point, or...
But it seems this conversation is not happening.
The reason I'm curious is that we do see some results that can't be fully explained by LA%. E.g. why lard is so bad, in many studies it's worse than even literal seed oils. Canola oil also seems worse than its ~20% LA content would suggest, but it has another 10% or so of ALA.
Or is it the "peak LA bad for some effects" issue, where 8% LA causes peak obesity but 30% LA is actually better in terms of obesity, but maybe even worse long-term for other health conditions?
Or is it all an effect of badly controlled natural products that fluctuate a lot between seasons, harvests, locations, feed (in case of lard)..
Or is it the vitamin A in canola oil, like Grant Genereux suspects?
Yep! It would really be nice if we could zero in on causes by running experiments, but the fact that we can't feasibly/ethically run these experiments (due to insanely long fat cell half-life) means we'll never know for sure. Or we'll know for sure in mice.
Thanks for always engaging with me; I've learned tons from you!
Thanks to you and Tucker for doing that! I am now sad. 😔
I wish the 2 of them would just sit down in a room for 3h Joe Rogan/Lex Fridman style and hash this out. I do wonder if it's "just" LA% or if there are other factors. Everything is marginal, so maybe it IS way worse if you get 20% preoxidized vs. 30% less oxidized LA, or maybe ALA is also bad, or maybe the antioxidants to reduce the damage to a point, or...
But it seems this conversation is not happening.
The reason I'm curious is that we do see some results that can't be fully explained by LA%. E.g. why lard is so bad, in many studies it's worse than even literal seed oils. Canola oil also seems worse than its ~20% LA content would suggest, but it has another 10% or so of ALA.
Or is it the "peak LA bad for some effects" issue, where 8% LA causes peak obesity but 30% LA is actually better in terms of obesity, but maybe even worse long-term for other health conditions?
Or is it all an effect of badly controlled natural products that fluctuate a lot between seasons, harvests, locations, feed (in case of lard)..
Or is it the vitamin A in canola oil, like Grant Genereux suspects?
Not sure...
Yep! It would really be nice if we could zero in on causes by running experiments, but the fact that we can't feasibly/ethically run these experiments (due to insanely long fat cell half-life) means we'll never know for sure. Or we'll know for sure in mice.
Thanks for always engaging with me; I've learned tons from you!