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*they intuitively preferred a sub-variant that, while not specified by the diet, happened to solve their problems*

I think people need to try out everything until they find their problem.

It looks that for people who do not have success with one way or suddenly gain weight back etc. That they might have a another problem that was not adressed yet. Or that noticed they can't process "xyz" properly.

Sure people can loose weight now knowing what to avoid. They may get healthier, hopefully. But unless they fix the issue which isn't always possible by not eating something in my opinion. They might be just as broken afterwards. But now they are at least thin, right?

So the spiral begins again or they follow the diet until it does not work anymore. And than get fat again.

So adding another step of fixing your body might be more important than choosing diet alone.

Maybe telling people how not to get sick is better? (i know its that easy ;P)

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*as much as necessary, as little as possible* (hope it translates well)

The best explanation is the one you can easily teach children (elemantary school age).

I think most adults who are 'broken' for a long time will never recover from it. They will always somehow need to control food/diet etc. At worst they will teach their kids all the wrong things. So if you are able to teach children what to look out for or even avoid things than you are on the winning team.

Otherwise most people who are "healthy" or not acutally sick/fat just won't care. I feel explaining things more detailed should be left for those interested in it. For the majority of people a small, easy to understand flyer that can be read within less than 5 minutes is all i can see to be honest. The rest is just noise.

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I want to expand this part but i don't have time now.

I know this post was about diets. But anyway i think it does fit.

What i miss here is behavior and the pychosogical side of things. Which is in my opinion almost as important or even more important than diet alone.

Without fixing your relationship with 'food/yourself/others/anything really' it almost does not matter what you eat (i.e. emotion/stress/eating patterns/timing etc.).

I especially want to include those "branches/groups" within any diet that will recreate a SAD-diet but with low/high-carb/fat stuff.

They recreate the same shit that made them fat. But now it is xyz-free. So its good now (taps forehead). They still shove 15 xyz-free muffin(insert anything here) into their mouth every day.

They have not changed at all. How do they expect change when they do the same thing.

Maybe this explains my view a bit better. They never moved on, they only look in a different direction.

Yes, it does not affect everyone.

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I might have lost track while writing this. Multiples times sry

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Charais's avatar

You forgot the Energetic/Mitochondria/Ray Peat diet that is having its day: Orange juice, fruit, well cooked potatoes, rice, ruminant meats. Honey, chocolate, carrot salad and ice cream. No PUFA's. I have been able to adjust my calories up to 2400 (a bit more than double) without gaining weight. But is my metabolism healing? Hard to say. The frustration is real.

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