In my experience glass noodles are indigestible unless cooked for way longer than the package suggests. I usually end up cooking at least twice as long! When I ate them the first time I had intense and acute stomach pain as you describe. Just something to consider!
Oh interesting. I never considered that. They listed 6-8 minutes depending on brand, I think I generally did 8-9 minutes. Hadn't thought of "overcooking" so much.
Does the extra cooking remove the FODMAPs or soften them up or something?
I’m really not sure! I think it’s more about gelatinizing the starch? Aka softening them up more. I haven’t eaten more than one serving a day so maybe I would encounter problems if I tried that, but by overcooking them I find that they digest quite easily.
Can you try glass noodles made from rice or mung beans? They can also be extremely low in protein and fibre, although not nil like sweet potato noodles. Also I think boiling them in bone broth rather than just water seems to help digestion - as does over cooking as mentioned by Rebekah - I cook mine for 20 mins.
I suspect if I did the rice ones, it would be fine. But they tend to have the equivalent protein that rice does, so might as well just do rice haha. I suppose for the convenience factor.
For mung bean, all the ones I could find were at least a mix of sweet potato and mung, I didn't see any 100% mung bean ones. Do you have a link/brand?
Longkou does a pure mung bean noodle and a mix of mung bean and pea protein noodles, and the latter is still v low protein. V cheap and these cook v quickly.
So I tried the mung bean & pea glass noodles. Not as terrible as sweet potato glass noodles, but about 1/2 as bad. I ended up throwing an already cooked & sauced (!) bowl away and put on the rice cooker after midnight last night because I was starving but couldn't eat more glass noodles.
Oh dear - back to the drawing board. One thing you might be able to try is making pasta or noodles out of the Caputo gluten flour that Brad talks about? Making these may not be your thing, though.
You know, this has me really curious about how you'd respond to straight potatoes these days. Would be interesting to see if you have the same reaction if you go potato diet for a day.
If I've been following well, this has been your only recent (mostly de-PUFA'd) experience with potatoes, and it was in a very processed form that might come with all manner of caveats. You don't even need to go full potato diet—from this experience it sounds like you'd know pretty fast if they work for you. I really want the potato diet to work because it'd be so easy lol
Thanks for reporting on this painful experience! One typo: At the start of the last paragraph in the '2 day dry fast washout' section, I think 'wast' should be 'fast' (unless there's a play on words I missed!).
Great post as usual. Have you considered chemicals on/in the sweet potatoes or during processing? Also, consider the bean approach ... when staring with a new bean, I start very small, like a few beans, then more, and more, until I can eat any amount with gas. You could be right about FODMAPS for yourself, as though you are 'allergic' to these types of foods in large quantities.
If you're going to do beans and meat a la Grant Generaux, some people find they can eat the canned beans but run into problems with those cooked from dried due to canning changing the fibre profile. I think I'm one of those, but I need another shot at the dried beans to confirm.
I've done a little bit of beans from the can, but really small amounts. If you look at Grant's picture, he's got like 12 beans in one meal haha. See the picture here: https://ggenereux.blog/2022/05/03/2022-mid-year-update/
In my experience glass noodles are indigestible unless cooked for way longer than the package suggests. I usually end up cooking at least twice as long! When I ate them the first time I had intense and acute stomach pain as you describe. Just something to consider!
Oh interesting. I never considered that. They listed 6-8 minutes depending on brand, I think I generally did 8-9 minutes. Hadn't thought of "overcooking" so much.
Does the extra cooking remove the FODMAPs or soften them up or something?
I’m really not sure! I think it’s more about gelatinizing the starch? Aka softening them up more. I haven’t eaten more than one serving a day so maybe I would encounter problems if I tried that, but by overcooking them I find that they digest quite easily.
Can you try glass noodles made from rice or mung beans? They can also be extremely low in protein and fibre, although not nil like sweet potato noodles. Also I think boiling them in bone broth rather than just water seems to help digestion - as does over cooking as mentioned by Rebekah - I cook mine for 20 mins.
I suspect if I did the rice ones, it would be fine. But they tend to have the equivalent protein that rice does, so might as well just do rice haha. I suppose for the convenience factor.
For mung bean, all the ones I could find were at least a mix of sweet potato and mung, I didn't see any 100% mung bean ones. Do you have a link/brand?
Longkou does a pure mung bean noodle and a mix of mung bean and pea protein noodles, and the latter is still v low protein. V cheap and these cook v quickly.
Mind you, I am in the UK - so not sure if this is available where you are.
I did find one that is pea & mung bean. Will try that one today or tomorrow.
So far, rice noodles have given me zero issues.
So I tried the mung bean & pea glass noodles. Not as terrible as sweet potato glass noodles, but about 1/2 as bad. I ended up throwing an already cooked & sauced (!) bowl away and put on the rice cooker after midnight last night because I was starving but couldn't eat more glass noodles.
Oh dear - back to the drawing board. One thing you might be able to try is making pasta or noodles out of the Caputo gluten flour that Brad talks about? Making these may not be your thing, though.
How do you know your adipose linoleic profile?
I do lots of OmegaQuant Complete tests. Check out my last few posts, I mention a lot of it there.
You know, this has me really curious about how you'd respond to straight potatoes these days. Would be interesting to see if you have the same reaction if you go potato diet for a day.
Haha at this point I might just never try potato ever again! There go my dreams of tallow fries diet..
If I've been following well, this has been your only recent (mostly de-PUFA'd) experience with potatoes, and it was in a very processed form that might come with all manner of caveats. You don't even need to go full potato diet—from this experience it sounds like you'd know pretty fast if they work for you. I really want the potato diet to work because it'd be so easy lol
Trust me, I wanted it to work too!
Thanks for reporting on this painful experience! One typo: At the start of the last paragraph in the '2 day dry fast washout' section, I think 'wast' should be 'fast' (unless there's a play on words I missed!).
oh, yea. Thanks!
Great post as usual. Have you considered chemicals on/in the sweet potatoes or during processing? Also, consider the bean approach ... when staring with a new bean, I start very small, like a few beans, then more, and more, until I can eat any amount with gas. You could be right about FODMAPS for yourself, as though you are 'allergic' to these types of foods in large quantities.
The ingredients claimed it was organic and only a single ingredient, sweet potato starch.
If you're going to do beans and meat a la Grant Generaux, some people find they can eat the canned beans but run into problems with those cooked from dried due to canning changing the fibre profile. I think I'm one of those, but I need another shot at the dried beans to confirm.
I've done a little bit of beans from the can, but really small amounts. If you look at Grant's picture, he's got like 12 beans in one meal haha. See the picture here: https://ggenereux.blog/2022/05/03/2022-mid-year-update/
Yeah that's not a lot. I'd have similar similar quantities of beans mixed in with ground beef.